tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post3558176910240116949..comments2023-11-05T18:46:32.295+11:00Comments on Baino's Banter: Blog Action Day - Australia's ShameUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-39719686923581397552008-10-16T23:41:00.000+11:002008-10-16T23:41:00.000+11:00Great post. This is the plight of indigenous peopl...Great post. This is the plight of indigenous peoples that we find all over the world. Colonialism caused major problems that we are still dealing with today, and now imperialism continues to rear its ugly head on indigenous lands in terms of natural resource development and the like. We need to continually raise people's awareness as to what is actually going on - especially in their own nations.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-70868272073746180742008-10-16T23:22:00.000+11:002008-10-16T23:22:00.000+11:00Goodness well spotted Bimbimbie . . my ability to ...Goodness well spotted Bimbimbie . . my ability to remember anniversaries and birthdays is deeply retarded! Fanks heaps.Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-45844942427428359362008-10-16T21:54:00.000+11:002008-10-16T21:54:00.000+11:00Tsup*!*Happy Blogsversary Baino*!*What a wise woma...Tsup*!*Happy Blogsversary Baino*!*<BR/><BR/>What a wise woman Ces's mother was!Bimbimbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12427788003822538655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-29246899939426753872008-10-16T15:47:00.000+11:002008-10-16T15:47:00.000+11:00Could you come over to my blog today (Thursday) I ...Could you come over to my blog today (Thursday) I have something for you.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://wwwbearnaked.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Bear((( ))) </A>Bear Nakedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10911207797995309155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-15707019002665200162008-10-16T15:25:00.000+11:002008-10-16T15:25:00.000+11:00Ces that's a fantastic tale! What an interesting c...Ces that's a fantastic tale! What an interesting childhood you must have had.<BR/>If there were more people like your mother, we probably could make poverty history. That's the sort of thing I mean rather than just developing welfare dependency. It's a long road but we're taking baby steps, it's just very frustrating trying to 'undo' the prejudices of the past and replacing a white Australia 'assimilation' attitude with one which embraces cultural diversity!Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-70238160156074056762008-10-16T15:18:00.000+11:002008-10-16T15:18:00.000+11:00The world was populated by aborigines and native p...The world was populated by aborigines and native people before the settlers came. The Philippines was an island of sultanates and tribes headed by Datus and Datunas. They had a caste system but a princess was allowed to assume the throne, not just the prince. The most famous of the Datus was Lapu-lapu, who beheaded Ferdinand Magellan in the island of Mactan. So much for that, Spain sent more galleons and ships and this time colonized the Philippines for 500 years!<BR/><BR/>The island where I grew up has its own aborigines, the Aetas or Atis. They are the pygmies and African-looking people who were marginalized and eventually driven to the mountains. I remember they use to come down from the hills and mountains to beg. My Mother who had a knack for languages learned to speak their language and when they came down to the city, the Aetas were stoned because they were black and had kinky hair. Mother gave them refuge at our house and fed them. It became customary for them to come to our house. Since my parents were well respected in the neighborhood and my father was well known in the city, the neighbors discovered that the Aetas came to our house for refuge and for food. Sometimes some devious women called Mother an Aeta sympathizer. I don't know why they were scorned. People thought they were lazy but I think it was because they looked Africans. Mother told them that she will give them rice and viand, clothes and other materials BUT they cannot get them for free. She told them that they had to barter. Since the Aetas had nothing, Mother told them to bring plants or flowers. So they bartered and Mother told us that made the difference between thinking of them as beggars and considering them equal business partners.Ces Adoriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17338000465619901229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-35901963751250764502008-10-16T14:16:00.000+11:002008-10-16T14:16:00.000+11:00Great post. I will have to read it again.Great post. I will have to read it again.Meganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09387041422819664987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-21825929022683523662008-10-16T11:15:00.000+11:002008-10-16T11:15:00.000+11:00Bimbimbie, you should go and read AV's post it's m...Bimbimbie, you should go and read AV's post it's more about the psychology of poverty. Very interesting. Look, if we can raise a little awareness at least that's something. I believe that there is an 'intention' to really move forward with the aboriginal condition but it will be a slow process.<BR/><BR/>Paddy, I can empathise with your urge for a quiet place in the country and some solitude. Man's inhumanity to man on all levels is a constant source of angst for me.<BR/><BR/>Thank you Mrs Bear there will be a few about like this I imagine.Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-32612420621867400252008-10-16T10:35:00.000+11:002008-10-16T10:35:00.000+11:00Bravo BainoI am giving you a standing ovation on t...Bravo Baino<BR/>I am giving you a standing ovation on this post.<BR/>Thought provoking, informative and educational.<BR/>You really are an inspiration.<BR/>Thank you.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://wwwbearnaked.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow">Bear((( ))) </A>Bear Nakedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10911207797995309155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-68572845608657940822008-10-16T10:18:00.000+11:002008-10-16T10:18:00.000+11:00That's what we humans do ... we exploit those more...That's what we humans do ... we exploit those more vulnerable than ourselves ... self-preservation or just pure animalistic behaviour .... whos knows?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-57677592273039570782008-10-16T08:05:00.000+11:002008-10-16T08:05:00.000+11:00A big sigh from me Baino, thought provoking piece....A big sigh from me Baino, thought provoking piece. Absolute vanilla says it all for how I feel. Through ignorance, arrogance, greed, self-righteousness, our so called civilized forebears laid a map to where we are today, not just in this country and we are still doing it ... Papua New Guinea being the latest in our region.Bimbimbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12427788003822538655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-1875896858377785082008-10-16T06:46:00.000+11:002008-10-16T06:46:00.000+11:00That's the way imperialism works Thrifty there's m...That's the way imperialism works Thrifty there's much water under the bridge now. Although the best programs to alleviate their poverty have indeed been culturally driven such as granting of land rights, the arts and stewardship of national parks which built a sense of community pride, provide income and provide a cultural connection to the land.<BR/><BR/>Miles, true that. I'm not across the whole thing but it seemed a fitting topic for Blog Action Day. It just seems wrong that when we're enjoying 'prosperity' we have a whole race of people living in the gutter.<BR/><BR/>Thanks AV. It seems whatever we do, we carry the guilt of the imperial invaders. We need to get over that and involve indigenous peoples in their own struggles. The trouble is, we just tend to throw money at them or corrupt organisations who 'represent' them and try to bring them into our way of living. It hasn't worked for 200 years, what makes us think it will work now.<BR/><BR/>Well Wuffa, that's the plan. This is just my little twist on Blog Action Day because it's close to home and so shameful in such a prosperous nation. Go read AV's post - the west NEEDS poverty, its part of macro economic survival.<BR/><BR/>Nick, when I said I hadn't met an aboriginal I meant through my social group. the Dharuk people come into schools and are known in the community but I don't have a single 'friend' with aboriginal blood so no first hand knowledge of what 'they' think. The land stewardship seems to work. The NT intervention has not. And even aboriginal activists are divided on the way forward. The difficulty is taking basic services to so many remote communities.<BR/><BR/>Thank you kj. I agree wholeheartedly that community and cultural empowerment is the way to go and there are people doing just that. I'm all for welfare and a 'leg' up but not dependency on handouts. The battle is with historical injustice, we need to move forward now, 'sorry' has been said, it's time to take action,<BR/>the past was the past . . tomorrow is another day.<BR/><BR/>Quicky True. I noticed riots in India the other day where Christians (converted by the invading British of course) are being murdered by their Hindu counterparts. The damage colonialism did is rife across the globe. On the other hand, uncolonised nations such as China also have their impoverished classes. I don't know what the solution is.Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-11901721610908905682008-10-16T06:15:00.000+11:002008-10-16T06:15:00.000+11:00Seems like the less techncally indigenous populati...Seems like the less techncally indigenous population gets the short end of the stick everywhere, Oz, US, South AmericaPaddy in BA (Quickroute)https://www.blogger.com/profile/12748161252400814925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-40540255362409919172008-10-16T01:17:00.000+11:002008-10-16T01:17:00.000+11:00baino, i encourage you to submit and publish this ...baino, i encourage you to submit and publish this post so that it is widely read. you've written senstively, realistically and thoughtfully and sharing it will be a wise contribution.<BR/><BR/>i work with marginalized people these days. moving away from a welfare state and toward community/cultural empowerment, insisting on individual responsibility while also respecting individual differences, is simple to say and hard to do. it can be done, but it requires open minds and open hearts. that seems a rare commodity in these times of me-against-you.kjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15122196887043345981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-90301130305506998592008-10-16T00:02:00.000+11:002008-10-16T00:02:00.000+11:00I've met one more Aborigine than you, then, Baino,...I've met one more Aborigine than you, then, Baino, who gave a talk and played his music in Belfast some time back. He was from the Northern Territory. The idea of aborigines getting involved in environmental services sounds good, but what do they think? Nothing wrong with promoting their culture either, we've got a fantastic aboriginal print in our lounge. Though obviously they should be seriously involved in so many other things.<BR/><BR/>Not sure that just getting on with their life is the answer, Thrifty, that's what seems to have caused so many of the present problems - which are totally shocking in a so-called civilised country. They need a lot of constructive, sensitive help to lead more fulfilling lives. But most countries seem to fail miserably when it comes to looking after neglected marginal groups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-67716242646312379692008-10-16T00:01:00.000+11:002008-10-16T00:01:00.000+11:00good post... but why not eliminate ALL poverty, wo...good post... but why not eliminate ALL poverty, worldwide?<BR/><BR/>then ensure decent housing and proper education... including clean food, air, land and water?laughingwolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08873675614347328116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-33927937562186522742008-10-15T22:35:00.000+11:002008-10-15T22:35:00.000+11:00Your post reminds me of the plight of native Ameri...Your post reminds me of the plight of native Americans, the San of South Africa and Namibia and many other "aboriginal" cultures - all dispossessed, all succumbing to the scourges of Western lifestyle - all so incredibly culturally rich and wise. We are a stupid species as "civilized" sorts - and the tragedy is we see the sins of the fathers and we still make a pig's ear of trying to make it right. What are we so very afraid of? That the indigenous peoples might indeed prove how very shortsighted the rest of us are?<BR/>Brilliant and powerful post, Baino.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04871239587214383387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-52574122652873874512008-10-15T22:31:00.000+11:002008-10-15T22:31:00.000+11:00This is where I kind of feel inarticulate or unabl...This is where I kind of feel inarticulate or unable to say something meaningful or positive, mostly because as the Christian Childrens Fund geezer used to say, the problems so big, what can I do!<BR/><BR/>So...um...how about that Youtube? Gotta lot of cool stuff on Youtube...Miles McClaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10335102965842725449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-82853666309269164412008-10-15T22:28:00.000+11:002008-10-15T22:28:00.000+11:00Hi Baino I'm going to have to come back tomorrow ...Hi Baino I'm going to have to come back tomorrow for a proper read.Bimbimbiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12427788003822538655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-34591549.post-3545869056825124702008-10-15T21:22:00.000+11:002008-10-15T21:22:00.000+11:00"Engage in the economy or free market", grrr, why ..."Engage in the economy or free market", grrr, why does it have to be on those terms? Why can't they get on with their own existence on their own terms, with some support from the "real economy". Pisses me off that the only way accepted by "conventional wisdom" is free market economics coupled with a "you are either with us or against us" attitude. Piss off friedmanites, maybe they don't want to contribute to your bottom line by your rules, maybe they want to just get on with life.Thriftcriminalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05067935732217300979noreply@blogger.com